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As we all know, Obamacare is expensive and will not come cheap. When she was speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi claimed that we would pay "ten year" costs of $940,000,000,000.00 which as far as I am concerned is already very expensive. However, is that the real story? You will surprised to find out that it is not. For several reasons the Democrats' costs do not match up to the real cost. The CBO (Congressional Budget Office) found that Obamacare may cost around 2.5 to 3 trillion dollars in the first ten years alone and costs would continue. In the current system, 1.1 trillion dollars is spent to assist medicare, but that is not enough to cover Obamacare so only two options can happen; raise the debt or raise taxes. For more information I will place a link on how the CBO found this out.

On my previous essay on Obamacare, one or two people commented saying that the United States of America was ranked 37 in a list of 191 countries. This list was done by the WHO (World Health Organization) in 2000. Why was the US ranked 37 in terms of health?  The countries were evaluated by five factors, including the overall health of the population and distribution of health services. In categories such as responsiveness and expenditures, the U.S. ranks number one, showing a commitment to deliver speedy health care to our citizens regardless of cost. Many factors such as obesity and smoking have lowered the health of Americans and, thus, lowered our ranking with the WHO. So the only reason we were so low would be because we have a large population of obese people and smokers while our healthcare was again ranked number 1 in terms of expenditures. Since 1997 the United States has in fact made improvements, but the WHO has not done a new study.

Someone also talked about infant mortality rates in the US and how they are higher than countries in Europe. This is false. The US infant death rates are not high, infant death rates are just low in Europe because of more restrictive definitions of live birth. That same person (I am not presenting their usernames as not to humiliate them) talked about how death rates in general are higher in the US than their Canadian and European neighbors. While the overall life expectancy of Americans is lower than that of people in other nations, it is the result of higher rates of homicides, accidents, and obesity, factors that are at best tangentially related to the health care system.

Other people believe that the government-run progressive healthcare would help workers get more access to healthcare than the employer-sponsored system in the US. Well did you know in Canada a person waits an average of 17.8 weeks from general practitioners' referrals to treatment by a specialist. Most provinces have a Web site to calculate a patient's wait time based on type of procedure and area. At the time of publication, the wait for breast cancer surgery in South West Ontario could be as little as 24 days or as many as 110 days. Another study has shown that according to 2/3 of the Canadians that were asked as well as 85% of the doctors that were asked people would be treated faster if they were allowed to buy private insurance.

If any liberals are confused right now just follow this simple equation: Universal Healthcare = Bad.

Now if you are still not convinced lets do an investigation of some of these nations that have Universal Healthcare besides Canada. We will give three points from two nations:

UK: 1) In the United Kingdom's Health Care System, patients are denied access to medicines that could save their lives. 2) Medicines are available in some parts of the United Kingdom for patients, but not available in other areas. 3) Thousands of NHS patients are failing to receive appropriate care due to waste, inefficiency and postcode prescribing, according to Sir Liam Donaldson, the chief medical officer for England.

France: 1) Patients pay around 10 percent of household income, before taking into account additional costs for mutuelle coverage, co-payment costs, and costs of treatments that are not covered. 2) France spent 11.1 percent of its GDP on health care in 2005— the third highest percentage in the world and more than every other country in Europe except Switzerland. 3) In some regions, France has a shortage of advanced medical technologies, including CT scanners and MRI machines. This has resulting in long wait times for important diagnoses for some patients.

Here are some stories from people in nations with Universal Healthcare:

"This country would be nowhere without its elderly population. We have always worked and paid our taxes. It seems most unfair that we've got nothing at the end of it."
- Dawn Ford (Eye disease patient, UK)

"I wouldn't like to see Americans make the same mistake Canadians have made… Patients in Canada are treated like Third World citizens. Our health-care system is like Cuba or North Korea."
- Lindsay McCreith (Brain tumor patient, Canada)

"There should be somewhere closer. No one with breast cancer should have to go on such a long journey, particularly when we are not feeling too good anyway."
- Muriel Buckley (Breast cancer patient, UK)

Here is a story for you all:

Gerald Carroll, 46, of Kalgoorlie, Australia had chemotherapy for tumors in his jaw and behind his eye. After that treatment, he had a three-month wait for radiotherapy. "But in the three months it took to get the stereotactic radiotherapy I needed, the tumor had grown too large to treat," Mr. Carroll said. "The radiotherapist referred me back to my oncologist. I've been on chemo since February and now's it's reduced the tumor to a point where I can have the radiation. I'm on the waiting list for stereotactic radiosurgery at this time."

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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014
"On my previous essay on Obamacare, one or two people commented saying that the United States of America was ranked 37 in a list of 191 countries. This list was done by the WHO (World Health Organization) in 2000. Why was the US ranked 37 in terms of health?  The countries were evaluated by five factors, including the overall health of the population and distribution of health services. In categories such as responsiveness and expenditures, the U.S. ranks number one, showing a commitment to deliver speedy health care to our citizens regardless of cost. Many factors such as obesity and smoking have lowered the health of Americans and, thus, lowered our ranking with the WHO. So the only reason we were so low would be because we have a large population of obese people and smokers while our healthcare was again ranked number 1 in terms of expenditures. Since 1997 the United States has in fact made improvements, but the WHO has not done a new study.

Someone also talked about infant mortality rates in the US and how they are higher than countries in Europe. This is false. The US infant death rates are not high, infant death rates are just low in Europe because of more restrictive definitions of live birth. That same person (I am not presenting their usernames as not to humiliate them) talked about how death rates in general are higher in the US than their Canadian and European neighbors. While the overall life expectancy of Americans is lower than that of people in other nations, it is the result of higher rates of homicides, accidents, and obesity, factors that are at best tangentially related to the health care system." At least you made sure all the angles are covered. I doubt other people talking about this would do so. Kudos.
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013
This is really well done. It is smart, insightfull, and does not insult liberals or democrats. And why I do think we need a better public healthcare system for those can't afford healthcare, this is a very good argument for not using Obamacare and I applaud you for it.  
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Student Writer
Thank you!
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Kimmuryiel Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
raise your hand if you want the hospitals run like the DMV
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
you do know with Obamacare they are going to have panals that will deside who get what treatments and who dosen't. like the old people who may not have as long to live as some one younger, why spend 50,000 on and old person when you can use 25,000 on 2 younger people hell the old person is just going to die in a couple years anyway when the younger person will live another 40 or 50 years. and if you have a premature birth thats going to cost 500,000 or 600,000 dollars, forget it abortion weather you want it or not. they will tell you, you can try again later. and its going to be that way with every thing, if it cost to much they are just going to let you die unless you one of the upper class privilege, which non of us are.
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013
Sir or Madam, I'm afraid you have used up the internet's supply of stupidity. Please turn off your computer and then hit it with a hammer. If you refuse to follow through with this you will leave us with no choice but to remove your ability too reproduce as a means to insure you will not pass along your stupidity to the next generation. This has been a message from the independent office of intelligence and thank you for your corporation.   
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
if you'll read on my profile, the person whom posted that comment was not me. it was the previous owner of this account. I have yet to delete all of his photos from here and I can't go through and delete all of his comments on posts even though i would like to. So i'm sorry for what he may have said but it was not me. so please, next time you see a comment that isn't nice from this account and is dated before september 2012 then it isn't me. again, sorry for what he may have said. i've noticed that a lot of his posts are idiotic and frustrating but again, it wasn't me.
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
So why are you using someone else account? Just create your own and you wont have to deal with this kind of thing. 
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
 the premium membership and i don't mind explaining to people. i've had a few people flip out for past things he's posted but i've already built up my posts here so i don't feel like using my original account until the membership is up.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Student Writer
Sources? You should also improve your grammar.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
you know if my grammar is all that I have to worrie about at this point and time in my life, will I really could care less. I think you should worrie more about your self than you should about my grammar that is one of the biggest problems in this world today,is there are to many people like you who are worrie about some one else instead of themself.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student Writer
Really? You seem very isolationist then. Isolationism helped Hitler come to power.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
what are you talking about, you must be crazy I am far from isolated, like I said I think its time you worrie about yourself.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012  Student Writer
That is what would bring the world to destruction. I am afraid you are dangerous.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yes you are, now go away like a good little boy
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Bravo. Well done. Very good research. The fact is that we have poorer healthcare mostly due to problems such as obesity and tobacco, not to healthcare. Contrary to popular misconception, America has excellent healthcare. The problem is not quality but accessibility, and the easiest solution is to make health insurance more affordable. Only one process has proven to do just that: competition. We can start by lifting restrictions on buying insurance across state lines. Why we even have such restrictions is beyond me. It’s like buying a car in one state and only being allowed to drive it on the roads of that state and that state only.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
if you can only buy insurance in the state you live in then they can keep the prices higher, then politicans can get richer by being paid off by the insurance co. by making the laws to faver the insurance co. and to hell with the people.
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ComradeAussie Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012
Nothing says liberty like someone dying because they where born poor... you libertarians are full of shit
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
We wouldn’t have people dying without healthcare if government intervention didn’t make insurance so expensive: [link]
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ComradeAussie Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
... When the Communist thinks you're naive then you have a problem
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student Writer
My plan:

1. Make all health plans, including savings accounts, fully taxed deductible, so as to end the tax preference for employer driven health insurance.

2. A strong litigation reform to reduce defensive medicine.

3. FDA reform that brings market reforms to the FDA to make drug approval process quicker and cheaper to those who medically need it.

4. Fight hospital mergers and consolidations by enforcing anti-trust laws and trying to stop state and local laws that inadvertently promote these mergers.

5. Allow people to buy insurance over state lines to increase competition.

6. Loosen license laws and requirements to stop artificial restriction of the supply of physicians by the state and AMA.

7. Allow small businesses and groups to pool together to buy health insurance.
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014
...that is good. I like it.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
if you do these thing then the people at the top who are making all the money and getting rich, won't beable to make money any more and there never going to let that happen. come on.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Student Writer
I think they would be making some money if they are the ones running the insurance companies.
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sounds like you’re a fan (or could be a fan) of ShaneDK: [link]
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student Writer
Yeah he is ok!
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TheLordSandman Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
Thankfully, I have hopes that the Supreme Court will declare Obamacare unconstitutional. If you listened to all three days of the hearings (which I did once the audio was available) they tore down the guy defending Obamacare much more than they did the Attorney General who brought the suit against it. That doesn't really mean much, of course, but when some of the judges have to HELP the guy defending the system, there's something wrong with it and they know it.
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druid69 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
There are many things that could be done to bring down the cost of health care in the US, and, those problems are constantly being ignored by either side. For one thing we don't have nearly enough doctors, but, we have a huge surplus of hospital space. That extra space, and, the costs of maintaining it are added to everyone's health care cost.

I doubt that the costs that are being predicted are anywhere near correct for a variety of reasons, but, I do think there were some really needed insurance regulations that were added. Insurance companies have taken people's money and cut them off at the first sign of expensive treatments for far too long. Also, when people pay for insurance for their entire life and rarely use it, they should get a discount on future insurance costs. Insurance companies need to be regulated, and, forced to keep the agreements that they have made over the years with their customers.

Also, I don't agree with mandated purchase of insurance, but, I'm not really seeing you complain about that. It seems to me that your real complaint is with the increase in medicaid coverage, but, you don't really speak very specifically about the health care bill.
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Protoeyesore Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Filmographer
Ahh, you read the entire law I presume.
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TheLordSandman Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
Not even the politicians who voted for Obamacare have read the whole law. I tried. It's full of such legal jargan that after about three pages, my eyes were watering.
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CommanderStrike1 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student
Now I wonder what would happen if McCain was President.
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we-are-the-remnants Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
same thing it wouldn't make any differance at all, this goverment no matter who's incharge is all going in the same direction. that is to destroy this country.
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CommanderStrike1 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012  Student
Now that is a good point. And with all the trouble of the president tring to control the military. LET THE MILITARY DO THEIR JOB, instead of the president making the choices.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Writer
We would not be in this mess.
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isaacbaranoff Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Doubtful. I think we'd be in a different mess. You want someone like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson for no mess.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Writer
You mean the guy you backed out to run Libertarian and the guy who just has 50 delegates?
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isaacbaranoff Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Writer
That blog (which does not generally hold reliable sources) has little to talk about on how Paul won caucuses and mainly about delegate math.
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CommanderStrike1 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student
So True.
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Eirikr-inn-raudda Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
I don't understand how the USA seems to rack up such a deficit, especially on medical care, when they don't even have an NHS. Here in Britain we have excellent medical care, as do most Western European/Mediterranean European nations, where our NHS systems comprise only a reasonably fraction of our government spending. In addition, Europe is unlikely to, even in the direst of national debt or economic circumstances, abandon the NHS system as it would basically be throwing the population to the wolves and affirming a system of social Darwinism. I really cannot understand the mentality that many Americans give me the impression of, that taxes are bad and thus an NHS is bad.
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Titanicfan1000 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Student Writer
We don't have a deficit in just medical care, there is more to our large debt than that, but Obamacare will raise it by a large margin. The problem here is that if you add more taxes more people will be poor.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
Actually, I DID ask a doctor about Obamacare and she responded that she was worried about it because she would be severely hampered in what treatments she could or could not do.

This is what happens when you ration healthcare; some people will have to be left to die if they aren't "productive", or if they cost too much, which came out of Obama's mouth.

When it comes to European or Canadian healthcare, there are always stories about terminally ill people who WOULD have gotten treatment in the United States, but in Europe or Canada, they were forced to wait too long. One lady had just a minor issue in her legs; she waited 14 hours and they were forced to amputate both of her legs.
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